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		<title>By: Layrayra</title>
		<link>http://caravita.retecivica.milano.it/?p=1618&#038;cpage=1#comment-2535</link>
		<dc:creator>Layrayra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2014 13:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bertolt Brecht, either with a full belly or an empty one. It isn&#039;t easy to adapt to an empty belly when such eexirepnce is unprecedented. Resentment is now running high, people feel cheated, what they say is:  We trusted you and now we are getting poorer while you have filled your coffers and your cousins&#039;. We want to get rid of you and we&#039;ll not trust anybody anymore. We&#039;ll just do the job ourselves.  Two critical factors come into play. One, young generations, heavily touched by unemployment feel deprived of the right to have dreams, which is the gist of being young. They have a lot of rage, a lot of energy and almost all of them are web savvy.Internet is the second critical factor. No need anymore of laborious process for aggregating people behind political platforms the way traditional parties are used to do, endless meetings and talks, package it properly, hand it over to your representative jumbo-man  and be faithful, he&#039;ll take good care. No need of a representative in order to aggregate people of similar political leaning and give voice to shared demands and grievances.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bertolt Brecht, either with a full belly or an empty one. It isn&#8217;t easy to adapt to an empty belly when such eexirepnce is unprecedented. Resentment is now running high, people feel cheated, what they say is:  We trusted you and now we are getting poorer while you have filled your coffers and your cousins&#8217;. We want to get rid of you and we&#8217;ll not trust anybody anymore. We&#8217;ll just do the job ourselves.  Two critical factors come into play. One, young generations, heavily touched by unemployment feel deprived of the right to have dreams, which is the gist of being young. They have a lot of rage, a lot of energy and almost all of them are web savvy.Internet is the second critical factor. No need anymore of laborious process for aggregating people behind political platforms the way traditional parties are used to do, endless meetings and talks, package it properly, hand it over to your representative jumbo-man  and be faithful, he&#8217;ll take good care. No need of a representative in order to aggregate people of similar political leaning and give voice to shared demands and grievances.</p>
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		<title>By: MayOh</title>
		<link>http://caravita.retecivica.milano.it/?p=1618&#038;cpage=1#comment-2520</link>
		<dc:creator>MayOh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2014 09:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bertolt Brecht, either with a full belly or an empty one. It isn&#039;t easy to adapt to an empty belly when such eeecrixnpe is unprecedented. Resentment is now running high, people feel cheated, what they say is:  We trusted you and now we are getting poorer while you have filled your coffers and your cousins&#039;. We want to get rid of you and we&#039;ll not trust anybody anymore. We&#039;ll just do the job ourselves.  Two critical factors come into play. One, young generations, heavily touched by unemployment feel deprived of the right to have dreams, which is the gist of being young. They have a lot of rage, a lot of energy and almost all of them are web savvy.Internet is the second critical factor. No need anymore of laborious process for aggregating people behind political platforms the way traditional parties are used to do, endless meetings and talks, package it properly, hand it over to your representative jumbo-man  and be faithful, he&#039;ll take good care. No need of a representative in order to aggregate people of similar political leaning and give voice to shared demands and grievances.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bertolt Brecht, either with a full belly or an empty one. It isn&#8217;t easy to adapt to an empty belly when such eeecrixnpe is unprecedented. Resentment is now running high, people feel cheated, what they say is:  We trusted you and now we are getting poorer while you have filled your coffers and your cousins&#8217;. We want to get rid of you and we&#8217;ll not trust anybody anymore. We&#8217;ll just do the job ourselves.  Two critical factors come into play. One, young generations, heavily touched by unemployment feel deprived of the right to have dreams, which is the gist of being young. They have a lot of rage, a lot of energy and almost all of them are web savvy.Internet is the second critical factor. No need anymore of laborious process for aggregating people behind political platforms the way traditional parties are used to do, endless meetings and talks, package it properly, hand it over to your representative jumbo-man  and be faithful, he&#8217;ll take good care. No need of a representative in order to aggregate people of similar political leaning and give voice to shared demands and grievances.</p>
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		<title>By: Gregori</title>
		<link>http://caravita.retecivica.milano.it/?p=1618&#038;cpage=1#comment-2519</link>
		<dc:creator>Gregori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2014 09:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First1. Italy is a bit of a different case. It alywas has been functional in its dysfunctionality. In the way that it went forward (but the pace wasnot too high) while the system was hardly functioning in the normal meaning of that word.They never attacked the real problems (like the South, corruption, alywas behind the North, never really catching up). They could do so by overleveraging and lack of competition. Those two factors have however changed. Creditworthiness (for the state at least) has been overstretched and half the world has become a competitor on international markets.2. 60s/70s were the affluent youth basically now it is the youth again at least in Italy but the more &#039;No Future&#039; kind.Anyway in Europe in general so called populist voters are often not the youth. Typical southern thing (Greece, Italy, Spain). In the North it is mainly groups not really ready for the future but with a lot of entitlements (often paid for by themselves, but that money was used to pay for somebody else&#039;s) or assets (like an own house, pension) coming under treath. People that basically want the good old days back and want their position protected. The Dutch show the different groups: -Wilders, undereducated, mid income around 40, own house.-Socialist, very low income and welfare bunch;-50 plus, pensioners or nearly pensioners.Together in the polls now &gt;40% of the vote as well.Nothing far right economically simply other nett receivers. Very little freetrade, American Dream like stuff. Simply another part of the entitlement brigade. These are not groups that will solve the low growth issue, they simply are ones that want another division of the cake (and not a bigger cake, at least they do very little for that). In the South it is the youth mainly (at least as driving force). Anyway especially the Southern youth is hardly competitive. Undereducated (compared to the North) and lacking of practical skills (like anywhere)brought up with entitlements and in the South often lacking languageskills as well.Re Grillo. He got the trend with him. Rumours about technocrat coupswill only further strengthen his cause. The only things that could weaken his position in a new election are imho:-MPs making a mess thereof. As long as they stay out of government and with outside pressure seems not a real possibility.-This vote was for most a warningshot and will be reversed if Grillo to power becomes a real issue. Might be but difficult to judge how important.-Strong candidate for one of the other parties comes up. Possible with the socialists but not very likley at least. And hardly a proven trackrecord as well, unless in organising Bunga bunga parties, with the present political elite. They hardly look more competent than Grillo&#039;s bunch.Anyway he needs more votes to really keep the ancien regime out and that can only via elections.It is not like with LePen or Wilders or TrueFinns that make other parties behave differently (more about policies), in Italy it is about a sick system that needs change and you donot do that with the same corrupt people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First1. Italy is a bit of a different case. It alywas has been functional in its dysfunctionality. In the way that it went forward (but the pace wasnot too high) while the system was hardly functioning in the normal meaning of that word.They never attacked the real problems (like the South, corruption, alywas behind the North, never really catching up). They could do so by overleveraging and lack of competition. Those two factors have however changed. Creditworthiness (for the state at least) has been overstretched and half the world has become a competitor on international markets.2. 60s/70s were the affluent youth basically now it is the youth again at least in Italy but the more &#8216;No Future&#8217; kind.Anyway in Europe in general so called populist voters are often not the youth. Typical southern thing (Greece, Italy, Spain). In the North it is mainly groups not really ready for the future but with a lot of entitlements (often paid for by themselves, but that money was used to pay for somebody else&#8217;s) or assets (like an own house, pension) coming under treath. People that basically want the good old days back and want their position protected. The Dutch show the different groups: -Wilders, undereducated, mid income around 40, own house.-Socialist, very low income and welfare bunch;-50 plus, pensioners or nearly pensioners.Together in the polls now &gt;40% of the vote as well.Nothing far right economically simply other nett receivers. Very little freetrade, American Dream like stuff. Simply another part of the entitlement brigade. These are not groups that will solve the low growth issue, they simply are ones that want another division of the cake (and not a bigger cake, at least they do very little for that). In the South it is the youth mainly (at least as driving force). Anyway especially the Southern youth is hardly competitive. Undereducated (compared to the North) and lacking of practical skills (like anywhere)brought up with entitlements and in the South often lacking languageskills as well.Re Grillo. He got the trend with him. Rumours about technocrat coupswill only further strengthen his cause. The only things that could weaken his position in a new election are imho:-MPs making a mess thereof. As long as they stay out of government and with outside pressure seems not a real possibility.-This vote was for most a warningshot and will be reversed if Grillo to power becomes a real issue. Might be but difficult to judge how important.-Strong candidate for one of the other parties comes up. Possible with the socialists but not very likley at least. And hardly a proven trackrecord as well, unless in organising Bunga bunga parties, with the present political elite. They hardly look more competent than Grillo&#8217;s bunch.Anyway he needs more votes to really keep the ancien regime out and that can only via elections.It is not like with LePen or Wilders or TrueFinns that make other parties behave differently (more about policies), in Italy it is about a sick system that needs change and you donot do that with the same corrupt people.</p>
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		<title>By: trasloco-internazionale</title>
		<link>http://caravita.retecivica.milano.it/?p=1618&#038;cpage=1#comment-648</link>
		<dc:creator>trasloco-internazionale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jul 2013 02:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sono molto felice di aver trovato questo sito. Voglio ringraziarvi per il tempo che spendete, </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sono molto felice di aver trovato questo sito. Voglio ringraziarvi per il tempo che spendete,</p>
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		<title>By: erica</title>
		<link>http://caravita.retecivica.milano.it/?p=1618&#038;cpage=1#comment-647</link>
		<dc:creator>erica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jul 2013 02:53:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ho trovato questo blog su google, sto leggendo con gusto tutti i post che riesco... il blog e&#039; semplicemente fantastico, complimenti.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ho trovato questo blog su google, sto leggendo con gusto tutti i post che riesco&#8230; il blog e&#8217; semplicemente fantastico, complimenti.</p>
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		<title>By: erica</title>
		<link>http://caravita.retecivica.milano.it/?p=1618&#038;cpage=1#comment-644</link>
		<dc:creator>erica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jul 2013 00:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Complimenti, questo post ha davvero stimolato il mio interesse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Complimenti, questo post ha davvero stimolato il mio interesse.</p>
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		<title>By: michela</title>
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		<dc:creator>michela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jul 2013 19:39:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pensavo di mettere il vostro logo sul nostro sito con il vostro link per dar modo ai nostri visitatori di conoscere il vostro blog. Cosa ne pensi?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pensavo di mettere il vostro logo sul nostro sito con il vostro link per dar modo ai nostri visitatori di conoscere il vostro blog. Cosa ne pensi?</p>
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		<title>By: valeria</title>
		<link>http://caravita.retecivica.milano.it/?p=1618&#038;cpage=1#comment-641</link>
		<dc:creator>valeria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jun 2013 22:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Avete davvero un blog ben fatto! Sareste disponibili per uno scambio di post? intendo guest blogging... ho un blog che tratta di argomenti simili, vi ho inviato una mail per scambiarci i dati. Grazie ancora!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Avete davvero un blog ben fatto! Sareste disponibili per uno scambio di post? intendo guest blogging&#8230; ho un blog che tratta di argomenti simili, vi ho inviato una mail per scambiarci i dati. Grazie ancora!</p>
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		<title>By: valentina</title>
		<link>http://caravita.retecivica.milano.it/?p=1618&#038;cpage=1#comment-635</link>
		<dc:creator>valentina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jun 2013 17:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Molto bello il blog... pero&#039; aspetto nuovi post, e&#039; da troppo tempo che non ci sono aggiornamenti. Vabbe&#039;, intanto mi iscrivo ai feed RSS, continuo a seguirvi!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Molto bello il blog&#8230; pero&#8217; aspetto nuovi post, e&#8217; da troppo tempo che non ci sono aggiornamenti. Vabbe&#8217;, intanto mi iscrivo ai feed RSS, continuo a seguirvi!</p>
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